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even with john boehner were to come to obama with a deal, john boehner is being held host and by members of his own caucus who won't let him do that. boehner can work with democrats to get it passnd and throw some of his support with the democrats to get it passed but the problem for john boehner is he has an election coming up for his own leadership position on january 3 and he is afraid to do that. >> laura: again, and i understand why julie is saying this because the republicans don't have a ton of leverage here, stephen. >> they don't. >> they have very little leverage. >> all of the taxes go up, lawyer, a as you know, on january 2. >> is it that bad for president obama if we go over the cliff, oh, throw the nation into recession and lose all these jobs but he views everything through a political lens does he not? >> he does. >> laura: i think they made the calculation this won't hurt them one bit and they have gotten the peg on the tea he party and boehner or something. >> the president has said that by the way of the negotiations and john boehner made the statement the other day th
even with john boehner were to come to obama with a deal, john boehner is being held host and by members of his own caucus who won't let him do that. boehner can work with democrats to get it passnd and throw some of his support with the democrats to get it passed but the problem for john boehner is he has an election coming up for his own leadership position on january 3 and he is afraid to do that. >> laura: again, and i understand why julie is saying this because the republicans don't...
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john boehner, a guy i like very much, but john boehner's ratings are now lower than nancy please sis. that's what the american people think about the way the republicans have handled it. >> the senate hasn't done their job in 1300 days and somehow, brent, the blame is on the republicans who did pass a bill, and president obama, of course, the media in love with him, there's been no criticism of him either. >> look, i disagree on two points, juan. where the senate is concerned, let's also keep in mind this. republicans and the house have passed hundreds of bills of that never seen the light of day because every single time harry reid refuses to bring them up for a vote in the senate. so for this man 20 turnaround and stay that the republicans are dillydallying when it's the republicans who have been showing up in the house for two years and he's done nothing is adommable. the president is playing this very well. this is a masterpiece on his participate but it's also a complete obfiscation. and right now, juan williams, you tell me what president obama has said he would stand unand cut
john boehner, a guy i like very much, but john boehner's ratings are now lower than nancy please sis. that's what the american people think about the way the republicans have handled it. >> the senate hasn't done their job in 1300 days and somehow, brent, the blame is on the republicans who did pass a bill, and president obama, of course, the media in love with him, there's been no criticism of him either. >> look, i disagree on two points, juan. where the senate is concerned, let's...
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. >>> coming up, the man in the middle of the republican circus, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story? he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even actually a political party. it's a faction of tea party people telling the most republicans that they're not playing ball with them. >>> also tonight, hating hillary. that was the intriguing idea behind a politico story. when will the right learn to rekindle its hatred for hillary. everybody played the hillary card lately saying how great she was on the right so they could make obama look bad. at some point they will have to confront hillary clinton herself as the chief democrat in the country. when will they pivot? >>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," t
. >>> coming up, the man in the middle of the republican circus, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story? he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even actually a political party. it's a faction of tea party people telling the most republicans that they're not playing ball with them. >>> also tonight, hating hillary. that was the intriguing idea behind a politico story. when will the right...
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there could be enough votes in the house, speaker john boehner talked about amending that bill. i think if it gets a 70 to 30 senate vote i think i it get te votes in it the house to pass but it might not happen until after january 3, january 4. >> i want to ask you about what ed henry was just reporting. president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of tossing the ball into the republican's camp, placing blame on them. in your opinion s that presidential leadership? >> the republicans have gone after the president that he has deferred to congress on this is that he was unable to strike a deal between -- with speaker boehner and now it is to reid and mcconnell. on one hand, obama is criticizing the congress but also giving them the responsibility to come up with a deal. this is on his watch. obama does not want this going into next year. he wants to move quickly on immigration and energy and maybe gun control. so, but he has not been able to stri
there could be enough votes in the house, speaker john boehner talked about amending that bill. i think if it gets a 70 to 30 senate vote i think i it get te votes in it the house to pass but it might not happen until after january 3, january 4. >> i want to ask you about what ed henry was just reporting. president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of...
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and has this last week done damage to john boehner and the republican party? and my round table will join me, representative jason chaffetz, harold ford, jr., andrea mitchell and chuck todd. back in a moment. >>> nobody gets a hundred percent of what they want. everybody's got to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. >> that was the president of course. we're back with our roundtable. joining me congress jason chaffetz of utah, former democratic congressman of tennessee, harold ford, jr., chuck todd and nbc correspondent andrea mitchell. welcome to all of you. all right, chuck. we'll talk about guns in a minute. let's talk about the fiscal cliff. are we going to get a deal here? >> we're going to get a small deal. it's a shame. you wonder is the only thing that could change things, the holidays, does it change boehner's mind? does it change the president's mind? i think the president i
and has this last week done damage to john boehner and the republican party? and my round table will join me, representative jason chaffetz, harold ford, jr., andrea mitchell and chuck todd. back in a moment. >>> nobody gets a hundred percent of what they want. everybody's got to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some...
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one question about john boehner and eric cantor and the rest of them, if leaders can't count, what can they do. how they went ahead with plan b knowing they didn't have the votes, i mean, that is sort of 101 in politics. >> make them reject one more time. make boehner and the republicans reject one more time. >> there's no real partner here. here's the broader question and it includes the gun debate. what are the president's priorities going to be after the first of the year? congressman, you heard wayne lapierre. does he reflect your views about how to approach any kind of remedy after a massacre like newtown, which is we should talk about everybody but guns? >> my wife and i, we have three kids. if there's something that we can do that will make sure that this never ever, ever, ever happens again, of course i'll support it, but i also -- >> come on, there's no standard likes that. that's why you try things. that's what public policy is about. >> i'm a concealed permit carrier, i have a glock 23, i have a shotgun. there are millions just like me. we're not the problem. i think there's
one question about john boehner and eric cantor and the rest of them, if leaders can't count, what can they do. how they went ahead with plan b knowing they didn't have the votes, i mean, that is sort of 101 in politics. >> make them reject one more time. make boehner and the republicans reject one more time. >> there's no real partner here. here's the broader question and it includes the gun debate. what are the president's priorities going to be after the first of the year?...
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. >> wake of house speaker john boehner's plan "b" failure, all eyes turn to senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other republicans note the president short-term fix raises some taxes, yet punt spending cuts until next year. >> i would vote for revenue, including the tax rate hike though i don't like them to get, to save the country from becoming greece. i'm not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >> if the president does return to washington this week, unclear whether he will come back here to hawaii for new year's with his family. joe lieberman says he expects the senate to be in session on new year's eve, working on a deal down to the wire. >> thank you, ed. markets dropped on shortened day of trading. dow fell 52. s&p 500 lost 3.5. nasda
. >> wake of house speaker john boehner's plan "b" failure, all eyes turn to senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other...
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john boehner. [applause] >> once again let me say thank you all for your presence here in the capitol rotunda today. let me also thank secretary clinton and mrs. bush for joining us and thank my colleagues on both sides of the capital for their work in bringing us all together. mike collins sponsored the resolution, thank you. one leader in particular deserves recognition for his extraordinary devotion to this cause and that is my good friend senator mitch mcconnell. in a few moments we will present miss suu kyi with the congressional gold medal and what a moment will be for a woman whose name means strange collection of bright victories. a quarter of a century ago, ms. suu kyi invited her countrymen to fulfill her father's goal to make democracy the popular creek. today because of the sacrifice of she and her supporters that invitation still stands, a bright victory indeed and one that we will celebrate today. as we do we can look ahead with a renewed sense of purpose, we can present this metal no
john boehner. [applause] >> once again let me say thank you all for your presence here in the capitol rotunda today. let me also thank secretary clinton and mrs. bush for joining us and thank my colleagues on both sides of the capital for their work in bringing us all together. mike collins sponsored the resolution, thank you. one leader in particular deserves recognition for his extraordinary devotion to this cause and that is my good friend senator mitch mcconnell. in a few moments we...
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speaker john boehner certainly taking a huge hit last week with his plan b proposal, didn't even get off the ground with his own party. where does this leave things now? >> in some ways boehner was prophetic and said only gods knows. so mark plotkin doesn't know, but i really think it will be a much smaller version. in the end they'll come up with something and it will probably be some break-away republicans, if there are any in the house, and the senate democrats to at least come up with something and then work toward the next year. >> you think there will be a deal? >> a miniaturized deal. >> lastly let's talk about this cabinet positions, appointments made. we're hearing former republican senator chuck hagel may be nominated secretary of defense, but a little something going on. what's it all about? >> he's considered against gay right, not sufficiently pro israel negotiating with iran and even republicans like john cornyn of texas said they're going to come out against him. it almost seems like susan rice all over again and they might appoint the -- the president might appoint th
speaker john boehner certainly taking a huge hit last week with his plan b proposal, didn't even get off the ground with his own party. where does this leave things now? >> in some ways boehner was prophetic and said only gods knows. so mark plotkin doesn't know, but i really think it will be a much smaller version. in the end they'll come up with something and it will probably be some break-away republicans, if there are any in the house, and the senate democrats to at least come up with...
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it's ironic to me that harry reid goes after john boehner. the house of representatives did this months ago which is when it should have been done. extended the rates. replaced the across the board cuts with responsible reductions in spending. and, yet, here the senate is pointing the finger at the house of representatives. the speaker is right to say it's up to the senate. and this is where it's going to have to happen. >> all right, senator. thanks at lot. next on the run down do both parties actually want to go over the fiscal cliff to save political face? we'll debate it the state department officials out of their jobs after the benghazi terrorist attack are reportedly still on the payroll. we have details moments away. >> greg: continuing with top story tonight. with days to go. both parties want it to go over the fiscal cliff in order to save face politically and strike a deal next month. will that be too late? alex stewart a republican stat gist and here in studio my favorite juan, juan williams a fox news contributor. aren't the conse
it's ironic to me that harry reid goes after john boehner. the house of representatives did this months ago which is when it should have been done. extended the rates. replaced the across the board cuts with responsible reductions in spending. and, yet, here the senate is pointing the finger at the house of representatives. the speaker is right to say it's up to the senate. and this is where it's going to have to happen. >> all right, senator. thanks at lot. next on the run down do both...
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there is a certain risk here, bill cunningham. >> i think my friend john boehner, he has become an institutionalist. a dennis hastert kind of a speaker instead of newt gingrich. not a revolutionary. not a member of the tea party. he wants a deal so he can talk later on about getting elected. this is the way boehner gets reelected as speaker. this is the way that obama wins injuries the media will declare him the winner. this is the way the republicans in the house get out of this box because they are going to vote no, not be primaried and then the train is on the track and sadly i think what is going to happen, sean hannity is the predictions of ernst and young and the cbo is between 250,000 and 700,000 private sector jobs lost because of this deal and that will be hung around the neck of barack hussein obama. >> you are saying bill cunningham that the people not being considered here are the american people. >> us. >> sean: washington is failing america at this moment because on top of it, they are not dealing with the real problem. >> no. >> sean: and all this discussion. >> sean, bill is right.
there is a certain risk here, bill cunningham. >> i think my friend john boehner, he has become an institutionalist. a dennis hastert kind of a speaker instead of newt gingrich. not a revolutionary. not a member of the tea party. he wants a deal so he can talk later on about getting elected. this is the way boehner gets reelected as speaker. this is the way that obama wins injuries the media will declare him the winner. this is the way the republicans in the house get out of this box...
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john boehner with the capitol christmas tree. this year's tree is from the white river national forest in colorado. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> good evening, everyone. and welcome to the 48th annual capitol christmas tree lighting ceremony. i am the architect of the capitol and i am honored to serve as your master of ceremonies tonight. for everyone's safety, we ask that you stay in your seat until the conclusion of the program. this event to officially kick off the holiday season here on capitol hill. and even though the weather doesn't feel like it's december 4, nothing says christmas like the playing of festive holiday carols. i would like to extend a special thank you to the united states air force band under the direction of peter foliard and created this great and festive holiday mood. let's give them a hand, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] >> and behind me stands the u.s. capitol's christmas tree, a majestic 73-foot spruce from colorad
john boehner with the capitol christmas tree. this year's tree is from the white river national forest in colorado. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> good evening, everyone. and welcome to the 48th annual capitol christmas tree lighting ceremony. i am the architect of the capitol and i am honored to serve as your master of ceremonies tonight. for everyone's safety, we ask that you stay in your seat until the...
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that led to a response from the speaker of the house john boehner. he issued a statement that included these words -- he says the president is the one who has never been able to get a yes. house passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff canada and the president has never called for the senate to act on those skills in any way." it's part of a six-paragraph statement from the speaker of the house yesterday afternoon. guest: it's a lot of back-and- forth. it's a lot of finger-pointing. they should all be in the room. they should be working on this until it gets done. every member of congress should feel an obligation to be putting forth solutions. it seems to me that there are far more focus on the political gains or downside of various deals than there is the true effect this as on the country. host: even if they were in the room with all the principles and the five or six principles agreed to plan, could pass the republican house of the democratic senate? guest: it depends what is in the plan. so far what we've seen is plans that are gettin
that led to a response from the speaker of the house john boehner. he issued a statement that included these words -- he says the president is the one who has never been able to get a yes. house passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff canada and the president has never called for the senate to act on those skills in any way." it's part of a six-paragraph statement from the speaker of the house yesterday afternoon. guest: it's a lot of back-and- forth. it's a lot of...
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thus diane john boehner's plan b, which was destined to die anyway. >> let me be clear. speaker boehner's plans are nonstarters in the senate. >> boehner appeared friday morning and said, if this thing were easy, it would have been done decades ago. >> i am interested in solving the major problems that face our country. that means house leaders, senate leaders, and the president, are going to have to continue to work together to address those concerns. >> the president lifted his number to 400,000, no tax hikes for anyone making less than that, boehner says the million, still no deal. what happened out there? >> he did not have the votes, simple as that. he had to pull back. his own caucus let him down. he thought he could get the 218 votes he needed on of his caucus and they were not there. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i think there is still a chance we can avert that. boehner's statement on friday morning get that he was still willing to work with the president to come up with something. the outcome has to be that the fringes on both parties need to be forgotten
thus diane john boehner's plan b, which was destined to die anyway. >> let me be clear. speaker boehner's plans are nonstarters in the senate. >> boehner appeared friday morning and said, if this thing were easy, it would have been done decades ago. >> i am interested in solving the major problems that face our country. that means house leaders, senate leaders, and the president, are going to have to continue to work together to address those concerns. >> the president...
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john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in congress coming in that are democrats. the president doesn't have to give on that $250,000 top. where do you stand on this? do you think the president does or should compromise up to -- particularly on the tax issue? >> you can't be a democrat and ask republicans to compromise if you don't want to give up something. i think the president clearly understood that. so when he laid the $250,000 out, he gave himself some room because, again, you saw speaker boehner's proposal, it dealt with 1 million. look, you have to compromise. democrats can't say, hey, we have more
john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in...
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my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker's staff that the president wanted to get there. this came up and it caused them to fall apart. >> is that how you understand it it went down? >> i'm not sure and i'm not sure it will end at some time. they didn't reach agreement and mitch mcconnell had arrived in the senate and cook up a deal which would put this out for 18 months, once again, mitch mcconnell has to ride to the rescue. it's a very interesting situati
my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up...
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the way john boehner leads is he says the house is the will of the american people. with cantor coming out against this, you heard from mr. latourette, it would be very hard for john boehner to move ahead of eric cantor and try to put this bill on the floor without it being amended. >> luke, stand by. mike viqueira is also with us this hour to bring us up to date. one of the points brought up by luke russert when he was speaking with representative latourette was the number that could support the bill as it stands right now, that number that representative latourette was just putting out there was 40 to 50. as we know, that magic number is 218. >> reporter: yeah. here is another number, 89. 89 people in the united states senate voted for this thing and one more number for you, richard, 5. 5 people voting against it. of the eight who voted against it in total were republicans. the thought was that such a strong vote with carry the day in the house of representatives. they would see the political and economic writing on the wall. evidently that's not going to happen or
the way john boehner leads is he says the house is the will of the american people. with cantor coming out against this, you heard from mr. latourette, it would be very hard for john boehner to move ahead of eric cantor and try to put this bill on the floor without it being amended. >> luke, stand by. mike viqueira is also with us this hour to bring us up to date. one of the points brought up by luke russert when he was speaking with representative latourette was the number that could...
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a south carolina congressman is voted against who speaker john boehner's plan b. he says passing the plan would not have changed the outcome. >> the reason i was against plan was i am not convinced the senate was ever going to take tips up. people feel all the house had to the endass the bill at of a discussion. beginning from the continue to believe the in notnt has no interest over the cliff. >> congress is not expected to meet again until after christmas. >> investigators are searching deadly gunman behind a double shooting in northeast d.c. of4-year-old raymond harris northwest and 69-year-old l beasley jr. of south east were shot early saturday morning. harrison died at the scene and r died at the hospital. no word on what led to the shooting. d.c. teenager shot the leg at a bus stop earlier month received a special delivery. the 18-year-old girl was shot by stole herunman who schoolbag, so some d.c. firefighters brightened her spirits this holiday season by and then buying bag. new laptop and engine 32 ann stock 16 -- and 32 surprise star, making happy.y a g
a south carolina congressman is voted against who speaker john boehner's plan b. he says passing the plan would not have changed the outcome. >> the reason i was against plan was i am not convinced the senate was ever going to take tips up. people feel all the house had to the endass the bill at of a discussion. beginning from the continue to believe the in notnt has no interest over the cliff. >> congress is not expected to meet again until after christmas. >> investigators...
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needs the cooperation in a cent republican leader mitch mcconnell and speaker john boehner to john boehner and bringing any deal to the floor that is not likely to get in the republican members and they count on it to assure that they won't filibuster the deal. >> it seems like after the boehner plan b went down, republicans are sort of this washing their hands of this and president obama is void by the confidence that if we go over the cliff, perhaps treasury can avert the worst things off the bad and republicans will get the political blame for it. that's why we are not moving so quickly? >> the goal is now for him to sort out a deal. they have both consummate deal makers. if anyone can do it, they can. i don't get the sense of urgency that they are going to take all the blame for this. we are probably going to get close to this and take wall street on january 1st to see a connection here. >> as i was reading this morning, going off the fiscal cliff was a bungee jump. we go over and the markets collapse. it's amazing that's what we have to get to. >> here's what we know. washington only
needs the cooperation in a cent republican leader mitch mcconnell and speaker john boehner to john boehner and bringing any deal to the floor that is not likely to get in the republican members and they count on it to assure that they won't filibuster the deal. >> it seems like after the boehner plan b went down, republicans are sort of this washing their hands of this and president obama is void by the confidence that if we go over the cliff, perhaps treasury can avert the worst things...
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is this a canter/john boehner showdown? >> may well be. canter has a bright future and he's playing smartly. he can do anything he wants after this. >> peter, i guess i'm curious, how does the senate which oftentimes looks like the adult in the room to begin with, how does the senate handle this? this is an overwhelming yes vote. marco was the loan no votes. he's positioning himself for a presidential run down the road. with such an overwhelming vote in the senate and adults taking control here, how do they reconcile with hurting cats in the house? >> it's very difficult. your point is right. there's a lot in this bill. there's a lot still that hasn't been done and will get done in the next two months when it comes to a lot of other budget matters. the hope now is that there is this up or down vote in the house and it passes. if they put a poison pill amendment as speaker boehner warned them about, they are in trouble. and then what happens if there's another bill coming through? there's not enough time. what will happen is they go into th
is this a canter/john boehner showdown? >> may well be. canter has a bright future and he's playing smartly. he can do anything he wants after this. >> peter, i guess i'm curious, how does the senate which oftentimes looks like the adult in the room to begin with, how does the senate handle this? this is an overwhelming yes vote. marco was the loan no votes. he's positioning himself for a presidential run down the road. with such an overwhelming vote in the senate and adults taking...
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we'll have to see if john boehner goes along with that one and if the obama plan can pass the senate, but there's a bit of optimism, a bit of energy, the body language finally looks a bit more positive. back to you. >> steve, with that improvement body language and the prospects that maybe something will happened, doesn't the fact remain that representative boehner does not seem to have control of the republicans in the house, a group of them standing firm, no taxes -- on a no tax increase on anybody. >> that's right, which is why boehner pulled the plug, jim, you'll recall, on that vote, which was supposed to be a show vote to put the pressure on the president to draw the line at a million. when he realized he didn't have a majority of the republicans, he didn't go forward. what this is now is an old school where you have a bipartisan society, where boehner would be asked to permit a vote, even if he knew most republicans would vote no. it's humiliating for a speaker, especially in this milieu, in the world we live in now. it would set up boehner to maybe lose the speakership when th
we'll have to see if john boehner goes along with that one and if the obama plan can pass the senate, but there's a bit of optimism, a bit of energy, the body language finally looks a bit more positive. back to you. >> steve, with that improvement body language and the prospects that maybe something will happened, doesn't the fact remain that representative boehner does not seem to have control of the republicans in the house, a group of them standing firm, no taxes -- on a no tax...
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house speaker john boehner tried to get an alternative plan through the house. that didn't work out. now the focus shifts to the senate. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to try to hammer out some sort of a compromise to avoid going over the cliff, but as you pointed out in your introduction, a lot of senators over the weekend expressed concern that, in fact, we will go over the fiscal cliff. of course, if is that happens, the economy could eventually slip back into recession. one interesting point, thomas, though, last time that members of congress worked between christmas and new year's was 1996. that was during the government shutdown. this is really a rare occurrence for members of congress to have to come back and work out legislation that they went able to get done before the christmas holiday. >> the president is supposed to stay there for how long? >> well, of course, the white house not really giving us specifics about the president's travel plans at this point in time. the reality is i think the president is h
house speaker john boehner tried to get an alternative plan through the house. that didn't work out. now the focus shifts to the senate. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to try to hammer out some sort of a compromise to avoid going over the cliff, but as you pointed out in your introduction, a lot of senators over the weekend expressed concern that, in fact, we will go over the fiscal cliff. of course, if is that happens, the economy could eventually...
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as congressman ellison said, john boehner has a decision to make. does he bring something to the floor that was similar to that plan a, that big deal that him and the president had forged, but then probably not get a majority of his conference and potentially cost him his speakership. now, will he lose his speakership? it's something that we're sort of skeptical of because the only person we really think could possiblyover take john boehner is a paul ryan, and really he hasn't expressed interest. >> going on to say we have a republican party today willing to eliminate any prospect for decent future for anyone including itself. if it cannot abe future that is 100% in accordance with its core beliefs and principles that's not governing. that's lobbing hand grenades. if you are only stabbeding on principle to appear taller, then you appear smaller, and the gop is shrinking daily before our eyes. if leadership casting vision, calling all your people to rise up, and we just watched what happened with lan b and speaker boehner trying to call his people to
as congressman ellison said, john boehner has a decision to make. does he bring something to the floor that was similar to that plan a, that big deal that him and the president had forged, but then probably not get a majority of his conference and potentially cost him his speakership. now, will he lose his speakership? it's something that we're sort of skeptical of because the only person we really think could possiblyover take john boehner is a paul ryan, and really he hasn't expressed...
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. >> the senate majority leader last out at john boehner, accusing him of running a dictatorship. >> he seemed to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on sound financial footing. >> republican leaders blamed the democrats and say there are limits to a compromise. >> republicans should not have to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that would not be fair to the american people. >> president obama flew home early from his vacation yesterday. speaker braoehner call the house back into town. but they understand their actions may not be enough to appease the american people. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial troubles would plunge the u.s. back into recession. just one possible effect of the fiscal cliff milk prices goodbye to about $2 or $3 a gallon because farm programs will expire at the end of the year. >> tributes are pouring in for the ge
. >> the senate majority leader last out at john boehner, accusing him of running a dictatorship. >> he seemed to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on sound financial footing. >> republican leaders blamed the democrats and say there are limits to a compromise. >> republicans should not have to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that would not be fair to the...
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. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner was at the white house summit. so far, he's not made a statement about the measures discussed. we're hearing the president does did not float a new deal but reiterated his calls to extend tax cuts for people making less than $250,000 he also wants to extend unemployment benefits for 2 million people and delay $110 billion in sequester cuts and that is a story we'll follow all weekend long. back to you in the studio. >> and thank you very much. >>> essentially, we remain in a stalemate tonight and congress returned yesterday to the senate, the house will be back on monday and they have three days to work it out. >>> and turning our attention to the other big story to the day. snow coming to the d.c. area and should start to see the white stuff coming overnight. gary mcgrady is joining us now. how much can we expect? >> reporter: not a lot. pardon me, tom. but we will have a little bit coming on across and looks like an accumulation here in the city. first of all, i want to assure you that this is not a big storm and
. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner was at the white house summit. so far, he's not made a statement about the measures discussed. we're hearing the president does did not float a new deal but reiterated his calls to extend tax cuts for people making less than $250,000 he also wants to extend unemployment benefits for 2 million people and delay $110 billion in sequester cuts and that is a story we'll follow all weekend long. back to you in the studio. >> and thank you very...
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>> they scuttled john boehner's plan. will they accept a deal for $400,000 for single people and $450,000 for couples? >> it is extremely difficult to do that. i talked to a couple of aides shortly after obama spoke and they actually were angry at the way the president presented the way things are coming. they actually thought that he was sort of sabotaging the thing by the gleeful almost presentation he gave with the applause when he talked about congress and the laughter. so it's going to be really hard for them to suck it up and i don't think that made it any easier. >> well, i have a little bit of a philosophical question for you, michael. the thought occurs to me that this is why we can't have nice things. we had the debt ceiling showdown. even before that, we had multiple threats of government shutdown over things like funding of planned parenthood and even if we get through this with a deal, we may have another debt ceiling showdown. are we at the point in history where we cannot get anything done and nothing will
>> they scuttled john boehner's plan. will they accept a deal for $400,000 for single people and $450,000 for couples? >> it is extremely difficult to do that. i talked to a couple of aides shortly after obama spoke and they actually were angry at the way the president presented the way things are coming. they actually thought that he was sort of sabotaging the thing by the gleeful almost presentation he gave with the applause when he talked about congress and the laughter. so it's...
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house speaker john boehner has taken a position. democrats are urging him to schedule a vote on the bill as it stands now. >>> prince william county officer is being remembered for his years of service to the community. motorcycle officer chris young was killed yesterday when he collided with a minivan. flowers and crosses sit at the site of the accident. he spent seven years on the police force. >>> it is cold out there today. and some folks are getting sprinkles in some areas. >> veronica johnson is here to tell us what to expect the rest of the week. >> hey will. important the rest of the week we go down and then go back up. and -- as you mentioned some of us seeing the sprinkles. that was earlier today. that's now way down to the south. all of us seeing cloud cover take a look at our shot here. you can see the monument there in the distance. the -- washington monument. we have clouds to the north of us. we have clouds down to the south. clouds to the west and clouds to the east. it is not until tomorrow that we could see some br
house speaker john boehner has taken a position. democrats are urging him to schedule a vote on the bill as it stands now. >>> prince william county officer is being remembered for his years of service to the community. motorcycle officer chris young was killed yesterday when he collided with a minivan. flowers and crosses sit at the site of the accident. he spent seven years on the police force. >>> it is cold out there today. and some folks are getting sprinkles in some...
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house speaker john boehner will be at the meeting today. the house will convene for a rare sunday evening session. house majority leader eric cantor says the house could be in session until january 2nd, the day before the new congress is sworn in. boehner, meanwhile, maintains that it's up to the senate to act first. >>> millions of americans may watch the ball drop new year's eve in times square, but a group of democrats is organizing its own ball drop on capitol hill. they'll launch their countdown today. their ball represents republicans dropping the ball on middle class families should lawmakers fail to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> new this morning, iran's state television is reporting the country's navy started training drills in the strait of hormuz. that area sees 20% of the oil pass through it. the state tv report says that the programs include more ships, submarines and jet fighters. they've warned other ships to stay away from the site until after the new year. >>> melissa mollet joins us from the live desk with mor
house speaker john boehner will be at the meeting today. the house will convene for a rare sunday evening session. house majority leader eric cantor says the house could be in session until january 2nd, the day before the new congress is sworn in. boehner, meanwhile, maintains that it's up to the senate to act first. >>> millions of americans may watch the ball drop new year's eve in times square, but a group of democrats is organizing its own ball drop on capitol hill. they'll launch...
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house speaker john boehner is home in cincinnati. he failed to get members of his own party to support his plan b proposal for ending the crisis. speaker boehner says the stalemate and the failure of plan b is the democrats' fault. >> the president -- what the. has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he refuses to challenges the members of his party to deal honesty with the entitlement reform and the big issues facing our nation. that's why we find ourselves here today. >> the president is scheduled to return to washington wednesday. there's no word if any new talks are planned. >>> even if we go over the cliff, workers won't feel all of the tax increaseness their january paychecks. the american payroll association says it's already too late for employers to accurately with hold income taxes from january paychecks. however, workers will immediately feel the squeeze of a
house speaker john boehner is home in cincinnati. he failed to get members of his own party to support his plan b proposal for ending the crisis. speaker boehner says the stalemate and the failure of plan b is the democrats' fault. >> the president -- what the. has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he refuses to challenges...
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john boehner interest a moderate. you're right. the tea party does not love him. one thing this is so hard politically is boehner doesn't want to shove down the throat of tea party members if he makes them vote on that, eric cantor could end up speaker. it's a dicey situation for boehner. >> that's why maybe if we go over the cliff and tax goes up on everybody and then they can vote in january to cut taxes on say 98% of people. that's sort of the reverse logic that the republicans will twist themselves into thinking that they've done something here, but either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. i think they finally understand that. >> the real issue is if i were boehner or mitch mcconnell, i would want to put this issue behind us as quickly as we can because we're going to move on to the gun control debate january, february, march. that's a very favorable issue for republicans. >> they wouldn't even go on tv to talk about it, but that's a separate issue. >> we're short on time. we're looking at sunday night the house coming back in presumably to vote on someth
john boehner interest a moderate. you're right. the tea party does not love him. one thing this is so hard politically is boehner doesn't want to shove down the throat of tea party members if he makes them vote on that, eric cantor could end up speaker. it's a dicey situation for boehner. >> that's why maybe if we go over the cliff and tax goes up on everybody and then they can vote in january to cut taxes on say 98% of people. that's sort of the reverse logic that the republicans will...
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boehner and his fellow republicans before monday night's deadline. brian mooar, nbc washington. >> and david gregory will have an interview with president obama on "meet the press." that's tomorrow morning at 10:30 right here on nbc 4. >>> you know what that means. it's make or break time for the redskins as they face the dallas cowboys tomorrow at fedex field. the winner is in the playoffs. jason is here with more. >> one more day and we'll see if the redskins are in the post season. six straight victories turned around the season. but this team isn't concerned about the past. come sunday none of that matters at fedex field. >> another game we have to go out and win. and that's the way we look at it. so, you know, every moment in your life is the biggest one at that time. we look forward to having many more of these but we have to take care of this one. >> the stakes are high, and emotions are going to be high. and we just got come out. we have to be perfect if we want to win the game. >> this game is going to be everything we got. there is no savin
boehner and his fellow republicans before monday night's deadline. brian mooar, nbc washington. >> and david gregory will have an interview with president obama on "meet the press." that's tomorrow morning at 10:30 right here on nbc 4. >>> you know what that means. it's make or break time for the redskins as they face the dallas cowboys tomorrow at fedex field. the winner is in the playoffs. jason is here with more. >> one more day and we'll see if the redskins...
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john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to see what harry reid cobbles together to try to get republican support in the senate and house. he's saying it's hard to see how this can get done by january 1st. so we're seeing a lot of managing of expectations and certainly a lot of posturing on both sides as it appears they're getting ready to play the blame game should we go over the cliff. listen to both sides. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the mem
john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to...
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"we all like john boehner." i grew up and john boehner's district in ohio. he is a very practical man. he is a deal maker. he wants to sit down at the table and come up with a solution. he is being pressured by the tea party. host: maverick on twitter says -- host: what do you think? guest: that sounds strange to me. host: congress needs to do something at this point. is he remove himself from the equation? guest: he is saying, "here's my offer." i think john boehner is doing that. he didn't have the votes he needed. host: republican senator thinks the president wants to go off the fiscal cliff. guest: i said earlier myself. in terms of who gets hurt the most, i think it's clear the republicans can be hurt the most. they put themselves in that situation. let's go offto say the fiscal cliff. unemployment or other benefits, veterans benefits, etc. it would be cynical to say let's sacrifice those folks to win a political point. i'm not saying democrats want to do that. host: let's hear from the republican in indiana. caller: hi. i have a comment and a question.
"we all like john boehner." i grew up and john boehner's district in ohio. he is a very practical man. he is a deal maker. he wants to sit down at the table and come up with a solution. he is being pressured by the tea party. host: maverick on twitter says -- host: what do you think? guest: that sounds strange to me. host: congress needs to do something at this point. is he remove himself from the equation? guest: he is saying, "here's my offer." i think john boehner is...
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house speaker john boehner did say that he and his leadership team and the rest of the republican caucus want to take a good look at the bill that the senate passed before they put it up for a vote but he did until that that vote could happen late today or perhaps early on wednesday. now, in the deal that was approved by the senate, income tax rates will stay the same for most americans. individuals making $400,000 and couples making $450,000 will see their taxes rise. the planned spending cuts in defense and dopings tim programs have been delayed for two months. senators say it is a less than perfect flan but it is a start. some still criticize the bill saying it doesn't go far enough to reduce the deficit or unemployment. >> the idea that people earning $300 to you to $400,000 a year could not pay the taxes they paid in the 1990s when the economy was booming is just plain absurd. >> of a said all along that our most important priority was to protect the middle class familiaries. this legislation does that. middle class families will wake up today to the assurance that their taxes won't
house speaker john boehner did say that he and his leadership team and the rest of the republican caucus want to take a good look at the bill that the senate passed before they put it up for a vote but he did until that that vote could happen late today or perhaps early on wednesday. now, in the deal that was approved by the senate, income tax rates will stay the same for most americans. individuals making $400,000 and couples making $450,000 will see their taxes rise. the planned spending cuts...
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boehner's plan b mr. obama has taken the initiative to bring plan c to the meeting today. >> this is not for show. this is a last ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try and get at least a small package, small deal together, before the new year to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff and to deal with some of the unexcept issues. >> reporter: that package first unveiled by the president last friday before left for hawaii is a slimmed down bill that would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts only for those making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefits and with the clock ticking it would delay dramatic spending cut until later next year. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. >> reporter: after the mee
boehner's plan b mr. obama has taken the initiative to bring plan c to the meeting today. >> this is not for show. this is a last ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try and get at least a small package, small deal together, before the new year to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff and to deal with some of the unexcept issues. >> reporter: that package first unveiled by the president last friday before left for hawaii is a...
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house speaker john boehner. as they left they sounded like they were closing in on a compromise. >> think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours, and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> the president said the american public is getting frustrated and losing patience with these last-minute negotiations. he says the least congress can do is protect most american tax pairs from rising tax rates due to take effect in the next couple of days. the least, it appears, rebecca, appears to be the most they can do. >> thank you. we'll check back later in the program. for more on how we got into this situation and what happens if nothing happens. michael santoly, it's great to have both of you with us. where does this stand right now? >> right now they're negotiating and things are being worked out behind closed doors by the top leaders in the house and senate and the whi
house speaker john boehner. as they left they sounded like they were closing in on a compromise. >> think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours, and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> the president said the american public is getting frustrated and losing patience with these last-minute negotiations. he says the least...
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gregg: what of john boehner though? steve latourette, who said, the same 50 or 60 chuckle heads who always screw things up, speaking of the tea party group. >> yeah. gregg: he said it is not really the speaker's fault. is it the speaker's fault? >> well, look, i think boehner was, he is in a bad spot. there are no good outcomes here for republicans. there have been no good policy outcomes for republicans. i watched the steven latourette comment, one of the things that struck me, these are the guys, 50 or 60 chuckle heads came here and screwed things up. the presumption congress was working just fine before they arrived. i would argue that it is nice we have people in congress who are actually serious about looking at the long term consequences of our overspending over these past couple of decades. that is where the real problem is. he can say they're stubborn and not willing to compromise and all things he said repeatedly as he made those criticisms but the reality is they're actually trying to solve the long-term probl
gregg: what of john boehner though? steve latourette, who said, the same 50 or 60 chuckle heads who always screw things up, speaking of the tea party group. >> yeah. gregg: he said it is not really the speaker's fault. is it the speaker's fault? >> well, look, i think boehner was, he is in a bad spot. there are no good outcomes here for republicans. there have been no good policy outcomes for republicans. i watched the steven latourette comment, one of the things that struck me,...
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last week president -- last week's speaker of the house john boehner failed to get the plan b passed but he failed to even bring to a vote. and if his own party that kept it from happening. so as the bickering continues over who is to blame the president and speaker left town after making the parting pitches. >> the work towards a package that prevanes tax hike on mid -- prevents a tax hike on middle class americans protect unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the president's solution of raising tax rates would be redink as far as the eye could see and it would hurt jobs. >> president obama says that he will cut his holiday vacation short and try to hammer out the deal with congress. law makers are expected to return to washington later on this week to continue the negotiations. >>> well it's christmas eve and guess what, not everybody has done their christmas shopping. as i am suspecting you are the ones guilty of this. our floor director here a woman, she says she has not finished either. so
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again, john boehner is an honorable man. i think he has outside forces in his own conference working against him, but more importantly working against the american people. it is our sincere hope that we are able to resolve this and get it done without taking this nation over the fiscal cliff. minimally, our caucus is unanimous in our support and responsibility to take a vote in the house of representatives. with that, i turn it to our vice chair. >> we do have votes -- i'll be brief. i will simply state that the house majority called us back for votes. today believe voting -- votes are beginning as we speak. our understanding is that none of the votes we will be casting today have anything to do with the deadlines that we face in slightly more than 24 hours. we are here, we are ready, we believe there is a bill that would help address some of these deadlines that we face and the fiscal consequences of not ask -- acting on these deadlines before us. that is the bipartisan-passed bill that would protect middle- class families,
again, john boehner is an honorable man. i think he has outside forces in his own conference working against him, but more importantly working against the american people. it is our sincere hope that we are able to resolve this and get it done without taking this nation over the fiscal cliff. minimally, our caucus is unanimous in our support and responsibility to take a vote in the house of representatives. with that, i turn it to our vice chair. >> we do have votes -- i'll be brief. i...